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		<title>Comment on &#8216;I hate Sarah Marshall&#8217;: a social media case study in the making by Edurormadow</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/03/30/i-hate-sarah-marshall-a-social-media-case-study-in-the-making/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Edurormadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>продам Форд-Фокус  2008 года    за 200 тр.   торг возможет.  срочно!!!
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		<title>Comment on The truth about Dove&#8217;s real beauty by Carrie</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/the-truth-about-doves-real-beauty/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get mad at Pascal Dangin who was just doing a job he was paid to do.  Get mad at Dove which has apparently convinced a lot of women it really does care about challenging the beauty norms.  The Campaign for Real Beauty is about selling soap, period.  To make itself stand out from the competition, Dove pretends to have a social conscience.  But although they are paying lip service to &quot;real beauty,&quot; the executives know very well they will not sell many products if their models are shown with their wrinkles and cellulite untouched.  So they cynically hired an expert photographer to make the models appear to be &quot;natural.&quot;  The only thing Dangin did wrong was speak too openly about the amount of retouching he did.  If you think what he did was an insult to the dignity of &quot;real women&quot; everywhere, again, the real culprit is Dove who directed him to alter the hell out of the pictures until they were just &quot;natural&quot; enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get mad at Pascal Dangin who was just doing a job he was paid to do.  Get mad at Dove which has apparently convinced a lot of women it really does care about challenging the beauty norms.  The Campaign for Real Beauty is about selling soap, period.  To make itself stand out from the competition, Dove pretends to have a social conscience.  But although they are paying lip service to &#8220;real beauty,&#8221; the executives know very well they will not sell many products if their models are shown with their wrinkles and cellulite untouched.  So they cynically hired an expert photographer to make the models appear to be &#8220;natural.&#8221;  The only thing Dangin did wrong was speak too openly about the amount of retouching he did.  If you think what he did was an insult to the dignity of &#8220;real women&#8221; everywhere, again, the real culprit is Dove who directed him to alter the hell out of the pictures until they were just &#8220;natural&#8221; enough.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recession hits Dollarama! by Misty</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/recession-hits-dollarama/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not even get me started...
The best part is, they claim the new prices are on NEW items to the store. There is a scrapbook item I buy from them regularly, it went up to $1.25. So no, it is not new items to the store that cost more. Even the old items went up. Look out Dollar Giant, here I come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not even get me started&#8230;<br />
The best part is, they claim the new prices are on NEW items to the store. There is a scrapbook item I buy from them regularly, it went up to $1.25. So no, it is not new items to the store that cost more. Even the old items went up. Look out Dollar Giant, here I come.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recession hits Dollarama! by staffeen thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>staffeen thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhye, yes nobody (anywhere) appears safe nowadays. Remember that saying, `save a penny for a rainy day?` Well it&#039;s pouring! Despite the dismal economic situation, I know it&#039;ll all be OK. Not naïve, just have faith! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhye, yes nobody (anywhere) appears safe nowadays. Remember that saying, `save a penny for a rainy day?` Well it&#8217;s pouring! Despite the dismal economic situation, I know it&#8217;ll all be OK. Not naïve, just have faith! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The chains of journalism by staffeen thompson</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/the-chains-of-journalism/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>staffeen thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very compelling post Rhonda, and a great reminder that at the other end of the pen (or keyboard) there&#039;s a person with emotion, passion and above all - conscience. Thank you for revisiting those...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very compelling post Rhonda, and a great reminder that at the other end of the pen (or keyboard) there&#8217;s a person with emotion, passion and above all &#8211; conscience. Thank you for revisiting those&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Because people still judge a book by its cover by Natalie Secretan</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/guess-what-mr-caplansize-does-matter/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie Secretan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a PR point of view, if Caplan is perceived as someone in poor health, then I think he is the ideal representative for the ailing Canadian health care system of today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a PR point of view, if Caplan is perceived as someone in poor health, then I think he is the ideal representative for the ailing Canadian health care system of today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Because people still judge a book by its cover by staffeen thompson</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/guess-what-mr-caplansize-does-matter/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>staffeen thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I really think you should re-read the post, open up your mind a little, really listen/read to what Rhonda is addressing, and then offer an apology. 

In the first paragraph she states a quote from Christina Blizzard from the Toronto Sun. If you read closely, Rhonda isn&#039;t using that quote to back up her claims or points of view, she is giving the audience an informed &quot;backgrounder&quot; for subsequent &#039;critique&#039; blog post. She&#039;s simply setting the stage for what she&#039;s about to address. That&#039;s what writers do. We state the position, or the issue, and then discuss the situation amidst the quote, address way the quote was outlined, or make observations about the post. 

If you look closely at paragraph six Phil, you&#039;ll see that she states, &quot;One’s ability to perform a task should not be judged by external factors completely unrelated to the task itself.&quot; Did you not see this part? She goes on to state the impact of Public Relations practices in this scenario, and then states further in paragraph six Phil, &quot;unfortunately for Caplan, that meant that his suitability for the job was judged by factors other than just his good record.&quot; Here she&#039;s outlining the reality of the situation, not what ought to be. There&#039;s a BIG difference.

There&#039;s a difference in the use of quotations when Rhonda quotes Marshall McLuhan. She&#039;s not stating a &quot;backgrounder&quot; as she did in the first paragraph, but she&#039;s referring to a well-known phrase coined by McLuhan, illustrating the importance/relevance of understanding your role pertaining to how publics consume messages via the media (McLuhan&#039;s &quot;Understanding Media&quot; is also a significant book on this issue).

Later in paragraph eight, she states that, &#039;...yes Caplan may not conform to [society&#039;s] image of health,&#039; but then offers a very reasonable and diplomatic counter argument to the claim stating, &quot;...by showing that he understands the challenges of the healthy lifestyle but that he is committed to making sure every Ontarian has access to quality health care?&quot; A brilliant personal observation, that most people wouldn&#039;t always think about.

In my opinion, I think the post is very well argued, and she points out all sides of the story in a refreshing way. I enjoy Rhonda&#039;s conversational style of writing and the manner in which she states her case. It&#039;s a productive critique of a relevant societal issue, shows an educated opinion and addresses it with diplomacy. 

How&#039;s that for a waste of space?

Good work Rhonda! Keep it up. :)
Staffeen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I really think you should re-read the post, open up your mind a little, really listen/read to what Rhonda is addressing, and then offer an apology. </p>
<p>In the first paragraph she states a quote from Christina Blizzard from the Toronto Sun. If you read closely, Rhonda isn&#8217;t using that quote to back up her claims or points of view, she is giving the audience an informed &#8220;backgrounder&#8221; for subsequent &#8216;critique&#8217; blog post. She&#8217;s simply setting the stage for what she&#8217;s about to address. That&#8217;s what writers do. We state the position, or the issue, and then discuss the situation amidst the quote, address way the quote was outlined, or make observations about the post. </p>
<p>If you look closely at paragraph six Phil, you&#8217;ll see that she states, &#8220;One’s ability to perform a task should not be judged by external factors completely unrelated to the task itself.&#8221; Did you not see this part? She goes on to state the impact of Public Relations practices in this scenario, and then states further in paragraph six Phil, &#8220;unfortunately for Caplan, that meant that his suitability for the job was judged by factors other than just his good record.&#8221; Here she&#8217;s outlining the reality of the situation, not what ought to be. There&#8217;s a BIG difference.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference in the use of quotations when Rhonda quotes Marshall McLuhan. She&#8217;s not stating a &#8220;backgrounder&#8221; as she did in the first paragraph, but she&#8217;s referring to a well-known phrase coined by McLuhan, illustrating the importance/relevance of understanding your role pertaining to how publics consume messages via the media (McLuhan&#8217;s &#8220;Understanding Media&#8221; is also a significant book on this issue).</p>
<p>Later in paragraph eight, she states that, &#8216;&#8230;yes Caplan may not conform to [society's] image of health,&#8217; but then offers a very reasonable and diplomatic counter argument to the claim stating, &#8220;&#8230;by showing that he understands the challenges of the healthy lifestyle but that he is committed to making sure every Ontarian has access to quality health care?&#8221; A brilliant personal observation, that most people wouldn&#8217;t always think about.</p>
<p>In my opinion, I think the post is very well argued, and she points out all sides of the story in a refreshing way. I enjoy Rhonda&#8217;s conversational style of writing and the manner in which she states her case. It&#8217;s a productive critique of a relevant societal issue, shows an educated opinion and addresses it with diplomacy. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for a waste of space?</p>
<p>Good work Rhonda! Keep it up. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Staffeen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Because people still judge a book by its cover by Rhonda Bowen</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/guess-what-mr-caplansize-does-matter/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not attack the Minister. I merely pointed out an image issue related to his appointment and gave my take to how it could be addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not attack the Minister. I merely pointed out an image issue related to his appointment and gave my take to how it could be addressed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Because people still judge a book by its cover by Phil</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/guess-what-mr-caplansize-does-matter/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the most shameful waste of space on the internet. Your attack is simple based on his looks?? Granted, smoking is a horrible habit for anyone, whether or not one is a minister of health.

However, your blatant admitted attack on his physical appearance is disgraceful and disgusting. It&#039;s no wonder you needed to quote the Toronto Sun. Crap feeds on Crap and you&#039;ve done an excellent job of reproducing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the most shameful waste of space on the internet. Your attack is simple based on his looks?? Granted, smoking is a horrible habit for anyone, whether or not one is a minister of health.</p>
<p>However, your blatant admitted attack on his physical appearance is disgraceful and disgusting. It&#8217;s no wonder you needed to quote the Toronto Sun. Crap feeds on Crap and you&#8217;ve done an excellent job of reproducing it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The truth about Dove&#8217;s real beauty by Christine Smith</title>
		<link>http://learningtheropes.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/the-truth-about-doves-real-beauty/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhonda: really enjoyed reading your post.  

One of America&#039;s most famous women, Oprah Winfrey, looks quite thinner and younger on most of the covers of her magazine then she does on her television show.  I think she&#039;s been taken to task for this; but, as you point out:  what ad, magazine shot, etc. hasn&#039;t been retouched in some way?

As a middle-aged women, I wouldn&#039;t want a photographer to make me look thinner, but, I always like my hair to look great, so, that can be retouched any time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhonda: really enjoyed reading your post.  </p>
<p>One of America&#8217;s most famous women, Oprah Winfrey, looks quite thinner and younger on most of the covers of her magazine then she does on her television show.  I think she&#8217;s been taken to task for this; but, as you point out:  what ad, magazine shot, etc. hasn&#8217;t been retouched in some way?</p>
<p>As a middle-aged women, I wouldn&#8217;t want a photographer to make me look thinner, but, I always like my hair to look great, so, that can be retouched any time!</p>
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